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New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:36 am

Hey peeps...

I'm looking to sort out my os cause it's just being a pain in the butt...

My Behringer UMC 1820 is great for output... i can plug stuff in to other inputs and it plays back..

But recording... urgh... it did work... it was fully recognised in ardour.... but for what ever reason now it's just not interested...

I tried recording from a cassette to the pc using audacity... the waveform seemed to match what i was hearing as it was recording but when i played it back it was just static... like white noise... no discernable sound...

I currently have Ubuntu 19.04... I did install the RT kernal but it doesn't play well with the nvidia drivers and as i do 3d graphics and stuff i need that to work too... I amended grub so it doesnt use the rt kernal...

I've seen theres a good few distro's out there now... and I just dont know what to use now...

My PC:
AMD FX8350
Gigabyte GA-990FX UD3
32gb ddr3 ram
Gigabyte Nvidia gtx970

I seem to have some of the std responses others have in other forums.... as i'm not at my computer posting this (booo... work always gets in the way!) I will try to google the responses...

I've used quite a few different distros so pretty flexible... not 100% linux nerd yet (tho i have dropped windows) but getting there...

help! :D

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Linuxmusician01 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:45 am

Pix Retro wrote:I currently have Ubuntu 19.04... I did install the RT kernal but it doesn't play well with the nvidia drivers and as i do 3d graphics and stuff i need that to work too... I amended grub so it doesnt use the rt kernal...

Ubuntu w/ the KXStudio repo enabled is the way to go. Just don't use that real time kernel. You don't need it. Make sure that the versions of your favourite audio software (Ardour etc.) are from the KX repo and NOT from Ubuntu itself.

I think that the problem that you have is w/ configuring Ardour and how to use your audio device. You need to provide us w/ more detailed information and possibly screen shots. Sounds to me that you selected the wrong audio source or Jack isn't activated or your're trying to use Alsa when you've got Jack activated etc. etc.

I always test my sound card w/ the simplest setup I can get. I activate Jack (for the right audio device!!!) and start Audacity. Set up Audacity to use Jack. Then restart Audacity. Then start qjackctl to watch the connections. Then I record something. Then I play it back w/ Audacious (not to be confused w/ Audacity) which I've set to playback via Jack. I test if Audacious' playback is properly set w/ an MP3 file of my favorite artist/track.

Good luck! :)

P.S. Dunno what exactly you mean by "I amended grub".

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:58 am

Theres a way to change the grub startup script so it doesn't use the real time kernal...

I'll investigate the kx repositorys..

I don't use jack as the audio device doesn't display in there... Which could be part of the problem... Hmm... I will do a fresh install of Ubuntu and try it again as I installed the Ubuntu studio apps list but it didn't seem to install everything...

I'll let you know how I get on...

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Linuxmusician01 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:16 pm

Pix Retro wrote:[...] I don't use jack as the audio device doesn't display in there... [...]

Then you've started Jack for the wrong device.

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Linuxmusician01 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:24 pm

The procedure is always the same:

  1. Determine number of audio device to use for Jack:

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    cat /proc/asound/cards

  2. Start Jack for device number 1 (= your second audio device):

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    jackd -d alsa --device hw:1

P.S. You need Jack to use all the in- and out ports of your Behringer audio device. Alsa won't cut it for some reason...

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:30 pm

aaaahhhhhhh... that might explain the tape issue...

hmm...

will try it again tonight and post back... hope it works! :D

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:50 am

sorry.... effing heatwave is killing me! lol

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cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [SB             ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
                      HDA ATI SB at 0xfe600000 irq 16
 1 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
                      HDA NVidia at 0xfe080000 irq 36
 2 [UMC1820        ]: USB-Audio - UMC1820
                      BEHRINGER UMC1820 at usb-0000:02:00.0-2, high speed
 3 [Device         ]: USB-Audio - Live Streaming USB Device
                      eEver Live Streaming USB Device at usb-0000:07:00.0-1, super speed


I'm assuming i would the use:

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jackd -d alsa --device hw:2


to run it?

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Linuxmusician01 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:24 am

Pix Retro wrote:sorry.... effing heatwave is killing me! lol

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cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [SB             ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
                      HDA ATI SB at 0xfe600000 irq 16
 1 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
                      HDA NVidia at 0xfe080000 irq 36
 2 [UMC1820        ]: USB-Audio - UMC1820
                      BEHRINGER UMC1820 at usb-0000:02:00.0-2, high speed
 3 [Device         ]: USB-Audio - Live Streaming USB Device
                      eEver Live Streaming USB Device at usb-0000:07:00.0-1, super speed


I'm assuming i would the use:

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jackd -d alsa --device hw:2


to run it?

Yep. :)

P.S. Now run qjackctl and click on the button "Connect" to see the 8 audio in- and outputs of your nice new audio device.

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:47 am

should i use the command line first and then run qjack?

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:08 pm

so...

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jackd -d alsa --device hw:1
jackdmp 1.9.12
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2016 Grame.
Copyright 2016-2018 Filipe Coelho.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
no message buffer overruns
no message buffer overruns
no message buffer overruns
JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
Cannot lock down 107341338 byte memory area (Cannot allocate memory)
audio_reservation_init
Acquire audio card Audio1
creating alsa driver ... hw:1|hw:1|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 24bit little-endian in 3bytes format
ALSA: use 2 periods for playback


seems ok

then running qjackctrl message box says:

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13:02:40.044 Statistics reset.
13:02:40.054 ALSA connection change.
13:02:40.105 D-BUS: Service is available (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus).
Cannot read socket fd = 33 err = Success
CheckRes error
JackSocketClientChannel read fail
Cannot open qjackctl client
JackShmReadWritePtr1::~JackShmReadWritePtr1 - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
13:02:45.126 ALSA connection graph change.


clicking connect is blank... the UMC1820 shows up the midi port but thats it...

clicked start on qjack

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DBUS Jack server could not be started. Sorry


then

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Could not connect to JACK server as client.
-Overall operation failed.
-server communication error.
Please check the messages window for more info.


Messages box

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13:04:44.358 D-BUS: JACK server could not be started. Sorry
Cannot read socket fd = 33 err = Success
CheckRes error
JackSocketClientChannel read fail
Cannot open qjackctl client
JackShmReadWritePtr1::~JackShmReadWritePtr1 - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
Sat Jul 27 13:04:44 2019: Starting jack server...
Sat Jul 27 13:04:44 2019: ERROR: `default' server already active
Sat Jul 27 13:04:44 2019: ERROR: Failed to open server
Sat Jul 27 13:04:46 2019: Saving settings to "/home/shugs81/.config/jack/conf.xml" ...
13:05:11.047 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Server communication error. Please check the messages window for more info.
Cannot read socket fd = 33 err = Success
CheckRes error
JackSocketClientChannel read fail
Cannot open qjackctl client
JackShmReadWritePtr1::~JackShmReadWritePtr1 - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock


any ideas? should i just run qjack on it's own?

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:09 pm

just found this in the terminal window where i ran the first script

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JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Driver is not running
Cannot create new client
Unknown request 4294967295
CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
CheckRead error
JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Driver is not running
Cannot create new client
Unknown request 4294967295
CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
CheckRead error
JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Driver is not running
Cannot create new client
Unknown request 4294967295
CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
CheckRead error


that any help? :D

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:16 pm

Ran qjack after a reboot without the script

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13:10:51.663 Statistics reset.
13:10:51.675 ALSA connection change.
13:10:53.543 D-BUS: Service is available (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus).
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
13:10:53.568 ALSA connection graph change.
13:11:29.004 D-BUS: JACK server could not be started. Sorry
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: Starting jack server...
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: ERROR: Cannot lock down 107341338 byte memory area (Cannot allocate memory)
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: Acquired audio card Audio1
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: creating alsa driver ... hw:UMC1820|hw:UMC1820|1024|3|44100|10|12|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 3 periods
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: ALSA: use 3 periods for capture
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 24bit little-endian in 3bytes format
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: ALSA: use 3 periods for playback
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: scan: added port hw:1,0,0 in-hw-1-0-0-UMC1820-MIDI-1
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: scan: added port hw:1,0,0 out-hw-1-0-0-UMC1820-MIDI-1
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: scan: opened port hw:1,0,0 in-hw-1-0-0-UMC1820-MIDI-1
Sat Jul 27 13:11:03 2019: scan: opened port hw:1,0,0 out-hw-1-0-0-UMC1820-MIDI-1
Sat Jul 27 13:11:08 2019: ERROR: JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Sat Jul 27 13:11:08 2019: ERROR: Driver is not running
Sat Jul 27 13:11:08 2019: ERROR: Cannot open client name = dbusapi
Sat Jul 27 13:11:08 2019: ERROR: failed to create dbusapi jack client
Sat Jul 27 13:11:08 2019: ERROR: Unknown request 4294967295
Sat Jul 27 13:11:08 2019: ERROR: CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
Sat Jul 27 13:11:08 2019: ERROR: CheckRead error
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
13:11:47.674 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Server communication error. Please check the messages window for more info.
Cannot open qjackctl client
Cannot read socket fd = 33 err = Success
CheckRes error
JackShmReadWritePtr1::~JackShmReadWritePtr1 - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
Sat Jul 27 13:11:47 2019: ERROR: JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err = Connection timed out
Sat Jul 27 13:11:47 2019: ERROR: Driver is not running
Sat Jul 27 13:11:47 2019: ERROR: Cannot create new client
Sat Jul 27 13:11:47 2019: ERROR: Unknown request 4294967295
Sat Jul 27 13:11:47 2019: ERROR: CheckSize error size = 0 Size() = 12
Sat Jul 27 13:11:47 2019: ERROR: CheckRead error


https://imgur.com/JoCKl7G

thats a pic of my advanced settings if that helps?

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:17 pm

ps... sorry for the spam and wall o text... :shock:

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Linuxmusician01 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:19 pm

Pix Retro wrote:so...

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jackd -d alsa --device hw:1


Wasn't your Behringer device 2?

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Re: New distro suggestions and tips please!!! :D

Postby Pix Retro » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:34 pm

Yeah it was... But when I rebooted it became 1... Sorry! Forgot to add that!


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