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Beast

Postby jonetsu » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:28 pm

I would like to share information about Beast.

Beast is a Free Software (LGPLv2+) music synthesizer, composer and DAW.
It has a MIDI sequencer, unlimited undo, real-time synthesis, support for Linux
Audio Plugins (LADSPAv1), Soundfont 2, WAV, AIFF, Vorbis, Gus Patch, FLAC and
MP3 files, 32bit audio rendering, full duplex support, multi-core audio
rendering, SIMD utilisation and precise sample timing.

The source code is available via Git or tarball and pre-built binary packages
are provided for #Linux.

The demo video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0oh6x5xkvY

The website:

https://beast.testbit.org/

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Re: Beast

Postby loxstep » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:30 pm

Thank you for sharing. The demo video was intriguing.

Out of curiosity:
How does Beast differ from similar programs (LMMS, for instance)? Is it more lightweight?
Does it have support for JACK, or are there plans to support it?

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Re: Beast

Postby chaocrator » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:17 am

loxstep wrote:How does Beast differ from similar programs (LMMS, for instance)?

beast began as a modular synth environment, and its internal gears that actually generate and process are completely modular.
the demo video above focuses more on its newer DAW-like capabilities.

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Re: Beast

Postby milk » Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:30 pm

Rewriting large parts of Beast and Bse - from Nov 8th, re the Beast 0.15.0 release, which now supports JACK audio
they/them ta / wiki.thingsandstuff.org/Audio and related pages - a collection of mostly Linux and free links / Linux Digital Audio and Music Workstation Comparison Matrix - collaborative Google Sheet (slightly broken, no time/cpu power to fix here)

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Re: Beast

Postby AlexTheBassist » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:43 pm

I wouldn't trust a developer who chooses HTML + CSS + Javascript for UI design, especially in applications that require to be responsive to the point of being actually real time. Dig it 6 feet under along with all the dev team.
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Re: Beast

Postby tramp » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:18 pm

AlexTheBassist wrote:I wouldn't trust a developer who chooses HTML + CSS + Javascript for UI design, especially in applications that require to be responsive to the point of being actually real time


Oh, the MOD does it, and it's a wonderful peace of hard and software.
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Re: Beast

Postby funkmuscle » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:05 pm

milk wrote:Rewriting large parts of Beast and Bse - from Nov 8th, re the Beast 0.15.0 release, which now supports JACK audio

hey milk, is it possible to add Beast to your repo?

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Re: Beast

Postby milk » Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:54 pm

Good point, have added beast-git.
they/them ta / wiki.thingsandstuff.org/Audio and related pages - a collection of mostly Linux and free links / Linux Digital Audio and Music Workstation Comparison Matrix - collaborative Google Sheet (slightly broken, no time/cpu power to fix here)

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Re: Beast

Postby funkmuscle » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:23 pm

milk wrote:Good point, have added beast-git.

thanks.
EDIT: I guess it takes a while to be uploaded to the repo?

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Re: Beast

Postby milk » Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:27 am

I've added more than just beast, some teething problems, I'll ping the other thread once resolved.
they/them ta / wiki.thingsandstuff.org/Audio and related pages - a collection of mostly Linux and free links / Linux Digital Audio and Music Workstation Comparison Matrix - collaborative Google Sheet (slightly broken, no time/cpu power to fix here)

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Re: Beast

Postby milk » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:35 am

ah, beast-git fails to build on Arch atm.
they/them ta / wiki.thingsandstuff.org/Audio and related pages - a collection of mostly Linux and free links / Linux Digital Audio and Music Workstation Comparison Matrix - collaborative Google Sheet (slightly broken, no time/cpu power to fix here)

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Re: Beast

Postby funkmuscle » Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:21 pm

milk wrote:ah, beast-git fails to build on Arch atm.

Okay that's good to know because I thought it was my system. I couldn't build it either that's why I also requested and addition to your repo.

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Re: Beast

Postby Paree » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:02 pm

Edit: Got it working, promising stuff.

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Re: Beast

Postby franlopez » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:55 pm

Just tried it out for a bit, played around with the new UI, looks very promising!

On the other hand:

AlexTheBassist wrote:I wouldn't trust a developer who chooses HTML + CSS + Javascript for UI design, especially in applications that require to be responsive to the point of being actually real time. Dig it 6 feet under along with all the dev team.


The sound processing is what needs to be "real time", none of the sound applications I ever looked into had "real time" UI...
I really can't see how the very (very) relative performance differences between modern JS environments (like electron, which is what I understand Beast is using for for their UI) and native frameworks would be in any way noticeable for something like the user interface of a DAW or synth. I would actually question any developer putting time and resources into trying to make the UI be "real time" (and I'm not really sure that's even possible in a normal desktop environment setup).

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Re: Beast

Postby Paree » Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:48 am

Aren’t most Qt guis written in python? Python is really slow but it doesn’t make a difference.


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